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Getting into an MBA program

April 24th, 2006
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I’ve written a lot on what it is like doing an MBA, though my personal experiences are unlikely to be duplicated. People have started to notice and have written me asking for advice on getting into the Sauder School of Business in particular. But what is important when successfully applying to an MBA program?

I went on exchange and I talked to a lot of people from a lot of different schools all over the world. I also talked to undergrads and alumni especially in China. So I have more experience and perspective than the average person. After putting it off for too long I wrote a nice long reply to a fellow from India who shockingly is an engineer considering doing an MBA. And just like after I taught English in Japan, I decided rather than write a new email every time I would make the information available to the entire Internet.

Update January 19th 2014: Google’s algorithm must have changed again, as once again I’m getting asked about the Sauder MBA program, in short I don’t recommend it, it was the worst experience of my life, I’ve never recovered. If you want to read some more general advice on getting into MBA programs, especially if you are from India, read on.

First of all UBC takes a lot of international students. The majority are Chinese but the second largest group (at least in my class) were from India. Being an international student is not a disadvantage in applying. Most schools are after the all mighty diversity. However you need solid English skills and your GMAT score and other application materials may be more scrutinized.

I didn’t have a great experience while at Sauder. I did learn a lot though. One of the things I learned is their career center and the recruiters they get leaves a lot to be desired. MBA rankings are really subjective, what matters most is who recruits at a school. The Wall Street Journal does its rankings entirely based on what corporate recruiters say, that should be the one to consider the most strongly if you are highly career motivated. That said the one I put the most stock in when I applied was the Economist. I think they have a good global perspective.

I only applied to schools in Vancouver. There is basically SFU and UBC. Vancouver is a great place to live. If you are willing to consider schools out East, Ontario has some higher ranked schools. I think a big problem with UBC is it is North of the 49th parallel and West of Ontario. I would avoid any of the Prairie schools unless you want to work in the oil patch. McGill and Concordia and possibly Dalhousie have decent MBA programs outside Ontario taught in English.

Of course the US has a hundred times as many programs as Canada and with the increase in the Canadian dollar, Canada isn’t such a bargain anymore. Canada is easier to immigrate to/study in for many people though, especially since the Trump election.

As for being an engineer, 25% of my class were engineers. So universities accept them, but the problem is, so many must apply. It is almost better to stand out in some way. That is a key, standing out from the crowd. UBC doesn’t get as many applicants as say Harvard or Tuck, but they get enough where you still need to be memorable. I think the essays and the letters of references are more important than your undergrad grades, especially if you did your undergrad degree a long time ago.

Experience is really important, try to have as much experience as possible before applying to any MBA program. It will help you get accepted and make you a more attractive teammate once you are in an MBA program. Being a good teammate, one who is desirable to work with is a huge deal if you want to be successful as so much of your grade is based on team projects at least at Sauder and Tsinghua.

There is actually too much information online, I suspect “MBA rankings” is a very competitive keyword phrase in search engine results. It is possible this blog posting will just get lost in the shuffle. However unlike just about everyone else out there, I’m not trying to make any money and I’m only trying to provide truthful information. Others have provided advice on doing an MBA which jives pretty good with mine.

Social Media can Help You or Hurt You

Apparently all it takes to get into some MBA programs is one well worded tweet. This is of course hyperbole, you still need an undergraduate degree and various supporting materials to complete your application. It doesn’t surprise me that Admissions is considering social media now. I wonder when they’ll start considering Klout score?

You are always writing for your future boss, this is especially true while doing an MBA or applying for an MBA program. Schools want positive people who will reflect well on the program. They don’t want people who will cause problems. They want shiny happy people they can feature in their advertising and brochures. I ended up on Tsinghua’s website but I am unlikely to ever be a featured #SauderAlum.

If you have any thoughts on getting into an MBA program you can leave them below.

9 Comments

  • Muskie says:

    This post is now one of my top three Spam magnets and since I really don’t want to chat about getting into an MBA program particularly the Sauder MBA program in 2023 I’m closing the comments.

  • Muskie says:

    Another Indian fellow doing an MBA in Canada, has just written an extensive post comparing the various rankings and the various Canadian business schools. I don’t have much positive to say about my MBA experience anymore…

    I always told the truth, some people choose not to believe me, now most people just choose to ignore me…

  • Muskie says:

    At some point I set up a Technorati Watchlist for “Sauder MBA” and it turned up another Indian fellow looking for advice on doing an MBA in Canada, possibly at Sauder.

    I haven’t learned my lesson and tried to answer his questions. I also linked to this blog posting, which lead to more questions. I answered them the best I could and now there are many more paragraphs of advice that might be of use to people other than Indians considering doing an MBA in Canada or elsewhere.

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